Talking points:  a non-sacral pregnancy and surrender  what does anger feel like for Kelsey Kelsey speaks to what the notself is  the grief of understanding what we are and what we have been what is peace?  the struggle of accepting the rest cycle allowing withdrawal  the closed aura performing openness as a manifestor the fear of our impact  a perspective of everything is neutral information  information without expectations  putting the 5th line on a pedestal  solo entrepreneur as a manifestor  building a business on reputation as a 5th-line desire motivation vs innocence motivation and finances  a TMI moment of how Jessica knows when enough is enough   Follow Kelsey Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kelseyrosetort Website:  https://www.kelseyrosetort.com The Maia Games Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/6THkRemZOb5XNgNfvfDtH5?si=2a6d93d4c3454e26   Follow Jessica:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/humandesignjessica Website: https://www.iamjessicarein.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Humandesignjessica   If you enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe, rate, comment and share <3