In this episode, I’m joined by the wonderful Berenice Laird - a mother, grandmother, senior nurse, holistic therapist with a lifelong passion for caring for others and a hidden passion for travel. Berenice’s journey has taken her from the busy wards of healthcare to a more holistic space of healing and self-discovery.   Together, we explore what it really means to care, the joy, the emotional toll, and the importance of recognising when your own cup needs refilling. Berenice shares her honest reflections on burnout, compassion fatigue, and moral injury, and how her transition into holistic practice helped her reconnect with balance, purpose, and wellbeing.   It’s a conversation full of wisdom, warmth, some added humour and gentle reminders about listening to our own needs - something that resonates deeply with the heart of this podcast: Listen, Love, Learn.