On episode 2 of our podcast series for rheumatology advanced trainees we share a fascinating conversation on fibromyalgia with the inspiring Dr Sam Whittle, Dr Emma Guymer and Dr Richard Kwiatek. This series is a collaboration with the Australian Rheumatology Association and the limbic. New episodes of season one will  drop every week over the next four weeks, so be sure to follow the limbic podcast in your favourite podcast app so you don’t miss out. You can also visit us at the limbic to get all the latest rheumatology news delivered to your email. In this conversation you'll hear about how each practitioner has come to accept and work with the ambiguity that comes with a  fibromyalgia diagnosis.  They’ll share tips on how to talk to patients with about their diagnosis, the ins and outs of working in the public and private setting, overcoming treatment challenges, as well as discussing the rewards that come with being able to walk alongside patients through a journey to self management. Dr Emma Guymer has been engaged in clinical care and research with fibromyalgia patients for over 20 years. She currently heads the Monash Fibromyalgia Clinic at Monash Medical Centre in Melbourne. Dr Richard Kwiatek works primarily in private rheumatology practice and has a long-standing clinical and research interest in medically unexplained pain and fatigue syndromes. Dr Sam Whittle is a senior consultant rheumatologist at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Adelaide and a senior lecturer at the University of Adelaide He is a Board member of the Australian Rheumatology Association and sits on the Steering Committee of the South Australian Statewide Chronic Pain Clinical Network.