On this show, Liam interviews Dave Smith about the MAGA Civil War and the future of the American right. Liam asks Dave about his interviews with Nick Fuentes, Tucker Carlson, and Candace Owens, and the developments since his TPUSA debate with Josh Hammer, which was moderated by the late Charlie Kirk. Dave reacts to Ben Shapiro's recent attack on Tucker Carlson and the non-interventionist right and calls on Ben to debate Nick Fuentes. They also talk about the possibility of a left-right America First coalition and the potential of Thomas Massie 2028. Recorded on November 7th, 2025. ENGAGE Follow Dave Smith on X: https://x.com/ComicDaveSmith Get Tickets to Dave's Comedy Shows: https://comicdavesmith.com/ Follow Liam on X: https://x.com/MLiamMcCollum Follow Human Reaction on X: https://x.com/humanreactionpc Join the Human Reaction Discord server to interact with Liam and the HR community at: https://discord.gg/mhfbe8RA CREDITS The Liam McCollum Show is a Human Reaction Production, hosted by Liam McCollum, produced by Sheehan Works, and edited by Bennett Studios. 0:00 - Intro 2:47 - Dave’s role in shifting the Overton Window 9:34 - Ron Paul & Giuliani Moment 16:04 - Nick Fuentes’s Influence & Jordan Peterson 29:27 - Ben Shapiro v. Tucker Carlson 58:18 - Neocons are out of touch / Attacks on Brett Cooper 1:04:40 - It’s all a fight over foreign policy 1:08:40 - America First Committee 2.0? 1:14:03- Where do we go from here? 1:18:50 - We must protect Thomas Massie