What if learning isn’t about knowledge at all, but about what people care about? In this episode, Vidya speaks with Nick Shackleton-Jones, author of How People Learn and one of L&D’s most provocative voices. Nick argues that learning is an affective process - memory and behavior are shaped by emotion, not logic. They explore why compliance training often fails, why arguments rarely change people but experiences do, the difference between real resources and disguised modules, and how AI might both eliminate and transform learning.

Connect with Nick

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shackletonjones/

References

How People Learn by Nick Shackleton-Jones: https://a.co/d/ji8Ca4F

The Checklist Manifesto by Atul Gawande: https://a.co/d/5M7D3xY

Iowa Gambling Task: https://youtu.be/9lR1Fwqt0G8?t=865

5Di: https://shackleton-consulting.com/5di-toolkit/

Connect with Learnnovators

Website: https://learnnovators.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/learnnovators/

Connect with Vidya

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/srividyakumar/