In this special episode of The Learning & Development Podcast, we’re turning the tables! Host of The Learning Hack podcast, John Helmer, takes over the mic to interview our very own David James about 360Learning’s new L&D Maturity Model. With a wealth of experience in the learning industry, John brings a sharp, inquisitive lens to this conversation, challenging David on why L&D needs another maturity model, how it’s been developed, and what makes it different from the many that have come before. If you’ve ever wondered how to push your team forward and make a lasting impact, this episode is for you. Take your L&D to the next level Take advantage of thousands of hours of analysis. Hundreds of conversations with industry innovators and 25+ years of hands-on global L&D leadership. It's all distilled into one framework to help you level up L&D. Access the L&D Maturity Model here - https://360learning.com/maturity-model KEY TAKEAWAYS The Maturity Model was built collaboratively. The model covers the 5 stages L&D goes through to reach maturity and become the engine that transforms their businesses. To truly impact the business, you need to anticipate business needs and train people for them in advance – the transformative stage. Stakeholders will resist your working transformatively. David explains why and how to overcome this. If you don´t understand the work you can´t deliver a solution. Open your conversations with “How´s business?” PR the hell out of everything and the impact you deliver. Use AI. David explains how. BEST MOMENTS “This is the lived experience of bouncing against stakeholders.” “It starts with the strategy rather than the learning.” “Be persistently consistent.” VALUABLE RESOURCES The Learning And Development Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-learning-development-podcast/id1466927523 L&D Master Class Series: https://360learning.com/blog/l-and-d-masterclass-home John Helmer  John Helmer is a writer, podcaster and communications strategy expert specialising in learning, training and education, with a focus on digital technology innovation. He runs two highly successful podcasts, The Learning Hack and Great Minds on Learning. He has led many programmes bringing together thought leaders and practitioners for knowledge sharing and debate, and writes for and edits numerous blogs, as well as producing many white papers and research reports (including articles for peer-reviewed journals). A pioneer in digital marketing, he co-created and promoted more than thirty training courses on using the internet for marketing and business. He is also a novelist, lyricist for Marillion, has been on Top of Pops, and won a Perrier Award at the Edinburgh Festival. https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer https://www.johnhelmerconsulting.com DAVID JONES David has been a People Development professional for more than 20 years, most notably as Director of Talent, Learning & OD for The Walt Disney Company across Europe, the Middle East & Africa.  As well as being the Chief Learning Officer at 360Learning, David is a writer and speaker on topics around modern and digital L&D.  CONTACT  https://twitter.com/davidinlearning https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidjameslinkedin L&D Collective: https://360learning.com/the-l-and-d-collective https://360learning.com/blog L&D Master Class Series: https://360learning.com/blog/l-and-d-masterclass-home This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/