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In this powerful episode, Benji sits down with Jon DeWaal, Executive Director of Liminal Space, to unpack burnout from the inside out - what it feels like, why it happens, and how entrepreneurs can break free from the grind that’s stealing their energy and purpose.

Expect to learn:
• What “functional burnout” feels like and how it traps leaders in a life they can’t escape
• How burnout hijacks your presence, leadership, and decision-making
• Easy-to-spot signs you’re burning out (and what to do about it)
• 5 practical strategies to get back your energy and lead with purpose
• Why owning your limits can actually build trust and performance in your team

This episode cuts to the heart of a common but unspoken problem: the cost of grinding nonstop without pause. Jon gives you the tools to self-diagnose burnout and reframe it not as a failure, but as a signal that it’s time to lead differently. If you’re running low on energy but can’t slow down - this one’s for you.

Connect with Jon Learn more at inaliminalspace.org Email: jon@inaliminalspace.org