On day five of the Madlanga Commission sitting in Pretoria: South Africa’s police chief, Fannie Masemola, has alleged that his now-suspended deputy, Shadrack Sibiya, the now-suspended police minister, Senzo Mchunu, the mysterious associate Brown Mogotsi and the incarcerated tender don, Vusimusi “Cat” Matlala all, in turn, schemed to get rid of the Political Killings Task Team and halt investigations into the criminal underworld. But in this edition of The Lead, specialist legal journalist, Karyn Maughan, cautions us to, pause, and take all this with a healthy dose of salt. Later in the show, the Patriotic Alliance clears its deputy president Kenny Kunene for any alleged wrongdoing over his presence at a police raid. Finally, we remember the mysterious Vela Incident from 1979 with ‘On This Day in SA History’ courtesy SA History Online. You can send host Graeme Raubenheimer a voice note with your questions or thoughts on this live to 072 562 3179. Mail your comments to: thelead@24.com. Full editions drop Monday through Thursday at 19:00 on Spotify, Apple and YouTube.