In this episode Ben and Pete get the privilege of going and visiting Mike Pero at his Mike Pero Gallery, where we talk to Mike about his life and entrepreneurial journey.

Mike is a serial entrepreneur and household name in Aotearoa, as the founder of Mike Pero Mortgages, Mike Pero Real Estate, an aviation enthusiast, and 6 x NZ Motorbike racing champion. Over the years he's helped launch and invested in a plethora of other companies from building flight simulators to airlines.

Mike shares with us his journey and what shaped him as a child, alongside how attention to detail, systems, and high performance helped launch his success.

P.S. if you can hear a humming sound in the background, that's Mike's Boeing 737 - 800 flight simulator that Ben got to take on a flight around Ōtautahi.