In episode 119 of The Knitting Pilgrim Talks, Kirk speaks with Rev. Dr. Stuart Macdonald, professor of Church and Society at Knox College, University of Toronto, about the section of the Stitched Glass Christian window tapestry depicting a corruption of the burning bush: a figure being burned at the stake. While the church’s response to heretics or non-believers is no longer so drastic, Kirk and Stuart discuss the kind of thinking that can lead to such extreme responses to theological differences.