In this episode, we have an honest and heartfelt conversation about the state of the Church today.

With so many scandals, fallen leaders, and growing cynicism—especially among Gen Z—we're asking the deeper question: What does Jesus see when He looks at His bride, the Church?

We unpack the extremes of either abandoning the Church completely or blindly excusing brokenness, and instead call believers to live in the "holy middle"—a space of truth, grace, and commitment to Christ's body.

Drawing inspiration from Dr. Glenn Packiam’s book “What Is a Christian Anyway?”, we explore how Scripture, covenant, and Christ’s love should shape our perspective on the Church.

We talk about:

- How to navigate church hurt and leadership failures

- Why a critical spirit is dangerous to your faith

- The difference between contract and covenant with the Church

- Why cancel culture isn’t Kingdom culture

- How Jesus calls us to restoration, not just rebuke

Let’s reset our hearts and see the Church through Jesus’ eyes.