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The Jon and Marc Podcast
Jon & Marc
27 episodes
2 days ago
Legal growth insights from Jon, Marc, and the industry's top tier legal & marketing professionals. Two veteran legal marketers, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, dive into the business of law, mass torts, and the future of plaintiff-side firms. From marketing strategy and technology to candid conversations with top trial lawyers, marketers, and industry leaders, this podcast unpacks what’s really driving growth and change in the legal world. Honest, practical, and a little irreverent—perfect for attorneys, marketers, and anyone curious about where the business of law is headed.
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Legal growth insights from Jon, Marc, and the industry's top tier legal & marketing professionals. Two veteran legal marketers, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, dive into the business of law, mass torts, and the future of plaintiff-side firms. From marketing strategy and technology to candid conversations with top trial lawyers, marketers, and industry leaders, this podcast unpacks what’s really driving growth and change in the legal world. Honest, practical, and a little irreverent—perfect for attorneys, marketers, and anyone curious about where the business of law is headed.
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Why Good Karma Builds Better Law Firms (60% Referral Strategy)
The Jon and Marc Podcast
36 minutes 30 seconds
4 weeks ago
Why Good Karma Builds Better Law Firms (60% Referral Strategy)

How do you scale a law firm from 2 lawyers to $12M in revenue without losing the local touch that built it?


In this episode of The Jon & Marc Podcast, Managing Partner Jim Hurley of Cooper Hurley Injury Lawyers shares how “The Car Crash Experts” built one of Virginia’s fastest-growing personal injury firms through culture, connection, and community.


Tune in and learn:

    • How Cooper Hurley plans to scale from $12M to $20M by 2029
    • Why hiring for alignment matters more than hiring for skill
    • The difference between working in vs. on your business
    • How local branding beats national advertising
    • Why giving back to the community is their most effective marketing strategy
    • How 60% of their cases come from  “Friends of the Firm” referrals 
    • The real impact of integrating intake and marketing under one roof

  • Bottom line:

    If you want to grow your law firm without losing your culture, this episode is a masterclass in sustainable, people-first growth.


    ————————— Contents of this video —————————  

    00:00 – Introducing Jim Hurley

    01:53 – Balancing Short and Long-Term Growth

    05:20 – Hiring the Right Talent 

    07:22 – Working On the Business vs. In the Business

    11:47 – Branding and Market Positioning

    14:45 – Maintaining a Small Firm Feel

    19:41 – Community Involvement and Giving Back

    24:05 – Referral Programs and Client Relationships

    27:15 – Managing Intake at Scale with Marketing

    30:13 – Future Growth Plans and Market Expansion

    32:11 – Improving Case Value and Operations

    35:19 – Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    The Jon and Marc Podcast
    Legal growth insights from Jon, Marc, and the industry's top tier legal & marketing professionals. Two veteran legal marketers, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, dive into the business of law, mass torts, and the future of plaintiff-side firms. From marketing strategy and technology to candid conversations with top trial lawyers, marketers, and industry leaders, this podcast unpacks what’s really driving growth and change in the legal world. Honest, practical, and a little irreverent—perfect for attorneys, marketers, and anyone curious about where the business of law is headed.