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The Jon and Marc Podcast
Jon & Marc
27 episodes
2 days ago
Legal growth insights from Jon, Marc, and the industry's top tier legal & marketing professionals. Two veteran legal marketers, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, dive into the business of law, mass torts, and the future of plaintiff-side firms. From marketing strategy and technology to candid conversations with top trial lawyers, marketers, and industry leaders, this podcast unpacks what’s really driving growth and change in the legal world. Honest, practical, and a little irreverent—perfect for attorneys, marketers, and anyone curious about where the business of law is headed.
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Legal growth insights from Jon, Marc, and the industry's top tier legal & marketing professionals. Two veteran legal marketers, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, dive into the business of law, mass torts, and the future of plaintiff-side firms. From marketing strategy and technology to candid conversations with top trial lawyers, marketers, and industry leaders, this podcast unpacks what’s really driving growth and change in the legal world. Honest, practical, and a little irreverent—perfect for attorneys, marketers, and anyone curious about where the business of law is headed.
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Digital PR Is the New SEO: Lessons for Law Firm Marketing
The Jon and Marc Podcast
43 minutes 57 seconds
2 months ago
Digital PR Is the New SEO: Lessons for Law Firm Marketing

The Future of SEO, Branding, and AI for Law Firms & Marketers

In this episode of the Jon & Marc Podcast, we sit down with Chima Mmeje — Senior Content Marketing Manager at Moz, founder of the Freelance Coalition for Developing Countries, and a leading voice in SEO & digital marketing.

We dive deep into:

  • Why traffic ≠ success (and what metrics law firms should really track)

  • How branding drives visibility in AI search & SEO

  • The future of content marketing in a world of ChatGPT & AI-generated noise

  • Why digital PR & creative content will outperform traditional SEO

  • Actionable strategies for law firms to build affinity, attract clients, and outsmart competitors

Chima pulls back the curtain on how she uses AI as a ghostwriter/editor, why agencies need to evolve beyond keywords, and how lawyers can hack trends (like celebrity cases) to generate massive visibility.

Whether you’re a law firm owner, marketer, or SEO pro, this is a must-watch for staying ahead in 2025.

The Jon and Marc Podcast
Legal growth insights from Jon, Marc, and the industry's top tier legal & marketing professionals. Two veteran legal marketers, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, dive into the business of law, mass torts, and the future of plaintiff-side firms. From marketing strategy and technology to candid conversations with top trial lawyers, marketers, and industry leaders, this podcast unpacks what’s really driving growth and change in the legal world. Honest, practical, and a little irreverent—perfect for attorneys, marketers, and anyone curious about where the business of law is headed.