Michael Episcope started his career on the chaotic trading floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, twice ranked as one of the top 100 traders in the world. But when automation disrupted his industry, he pivoted. With his own wealth on the line, he co-founded Origin Investments in 2007, just before the financial crisis. In this episode with Jess Larsen, Michael shares the hard lessons from losing money in bad deals, the pivot during 2008 that set up Origin’s growth, and how they scaled to more than $2 billion under management. From risk management to wealth preservation, this conversation is a masterclass in how to grow — and keep — wealth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices