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The Jay Show
The Jay Show
78 episodes
4 days ago
The Jay Show - an open conversation regarding Islam and Christianity. Jay Smith asks many questions, which have never been asked about Islam. Come on board and listen it!
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The Jay Show - an open conversation regarding Islam and Christianity. Jay Smith asks many questions, which have never been asked about Islam. Come on board and listen it!
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Religion & Spirituality
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Two Qurans within the first 20 years?
The Jay Show
28 minutes 59 seconds
5 years ago
Two Qurans within the first 20 years?

We now introduce some of the damaging material concerning how the Qur'an began.  Jay and al Fadi go through what we know from within the Islamic Traditions on how this book, the foundation for every Muslim, was created.  We've been told that there is only ONE Qur'an, yet when we go to Al Bukhari 6:509-510 which is the most authoritative place to find out just how the Qur'an was created, we find that there wasn't just one Qur'an written down, but TWO Qur'ans within a period of 20 years, the first during the time of Abu Bakr (632-634 AD), and the second during the time of Uthman (650-652 AD).  Yet, both were written by the secretary of Muhammad, Zaid ibn Thabit. And after the caliph had the second Qur'an finalized, he sent 9 copies to 9 different cities as the official Qur'an of that time.  Jay and Al Fadi go through in this episode all the problems these two first copies of the Qur'an create for Muslims who want to believe that the Qur'an was ever changed, or that the Qur'an we have today is the same which existed in the 7th century.  Yet, even more damaging, according to later traditions, even this final Qur'an was changed, deleted, parts forgotten, or abrogated, proving that decades later they were still changing the Qur'an.  The more we look at the Qur'an's history, the more we realize that the classical account of how the Qur'an was compiled begins to weaken and weaken.  Stay tuned, because it's going to get even worse!  © Pfander Centre for Apologetics, 2017 (16,655)

The Jay Show
The Jay Show - an open conversation regarding Islam and Christianity. Jay Smith asks many questions, which have never been asked about Islam. Come on board and listen it!