In this episode ...

Two weeks ago, I traveled west for meetings and then an impromptu hangout with my daughter, Ki, in Seattle.

We spent a ton of time in the shallow end of the pool (which tends to be the place where Ki is most comfortable).

Over time, we dove into some heart-felt subjects and ended the episode in fairly intense fashion.

Cathy was not on this trip and will be on upcoming podcasts.

And thanks for your patience in waiting for this podcast to publish. I was sick for more than a week following travels and didn't have the energy to complete the editing.

Enjoy!

Recorded February 20, 2025