We’re back again with our guests Rich Rowe and Charlie McCollester, two of the preeminent labor historians, educators, and activists working today. We pick right back up where we left off last time looking at the history of unions, specifically our very own Iron Workers International Union. Then, we talk about one of the key issues that has always faced our labor movement: contractors, companies, and corporations dividing the working class to keep us from organizing and training our sights on their greed. We also discuss the labor movement’s transition from foe to ally during the Civil Rights Movement, and how the eventual, much-needed, and militant inclusion of ALL Workers has benefited the labor movement for generations. Finally, we end with a question everyone at one point or another in the labor movement has asked themselves: are unions still relevant? Our answer to that question: Organize or Die, Brothers and Sisters!