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The Interop
Interop Ventures
130 episodes
5 days ago
Technical deep dives with the entrepreneurs and developers building the decentralized economics networks which make up the Interchain. The Interop is hosted by crypto investor and podcaster @seb3point0.
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Technical deep dives with the entrepreneurs and developers building the decentralized economics networks which make up the Interchain. The Interop is hosted by crypto investor and podcaster @seb3point0.
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The Interop
Crypto’s Casino Phase: The Future of Bitcoin, Ethereum & DeFi with Jordi Alexander

Join Jordi Alexander, CEO of Selini Capital and host of the Steady Lads podcast, as he unpacks the current state of global markets and crypto in a high-stakes era. From the macroeconomic shifts driving Bitcoin and gold to the speculative bubbles bursting in altcoins and meme tokens, Jordi shares his candid views on where value lies today. This episode dives deep into the intersection of AI and crypto, the future of DeFi, and the economic forces shaping the next phase of digital finance.


🎧 Listen to The Interop on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/58QAYwzVjCLrWR8E4tWbgm


Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.ventures


📚 Chapters


00:00 Introduction

03:00 Crypto as a Casino Phase

07:15 The Base vs. Speculation Framework

12:00 AI’s Role in Crypto’s Future

17:45 Ethereum’s Struggles & Lessons

23:30 Bitcoin, Gold & Global Shifts

28:00 Wrap-Up & Market Outlook


📎 Links

The Interop - https://interop.ventures/

Selini Capital - https://www.selinicapital.com/


🌐 Socials

Jordi - https://x.com/gametheorizing

Sebastien Couture - https://x.com/seb3point0

Selini Capital - https://x.com/SeliniCapital


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6 months ago
43 minutes 53 seconds

The Interop
Why Ethereum Got Scaling Wrong with Lucian Mincu of MultiversX

Lucian Mincu, co-founder of Multiverse X, dives deep into the critical decisions that shaped the blockchain industry. He shares why Ethereum abandoned state sharding and how Multiverse X boldly implemented it from day one to redefine scalability and speed.


Discover the game-changing potential of sub-second finality, adaptive state sharding, and the vision for invisible, seamless blockchain interactions. Lucian also tackles the rising demand for stablecoins, their role in global finance, and the shifts in payments that are reshaping real-world adoption.


Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.ventures


📚 Chapters


00:00 Introduction

03:10 Multiverse X Origins

06:24 Why Ethereum Chose Rollups

10:43 Sharding vs. Rollups

18:37 Sub-Second Finality

24:34 Stablecoins & Payments

31:39 Future of Blockchain


📎 Links

MultiversX - https://multiversx.com/

Whitepaper - https://files.multiversx.com/multiversx-whitepaper.pdf


🌐 Socials

Lucian Mincu - https://x.com/lucianmincu

Sebastien Couture - https://x.com/seb3point0

Plaza - https://x.com/MultiversX


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6 months ago
44 minutes 39 seconds

The Interop
10% Yield on ETH? Here’s How Plaza Finance Does It

Ryan Galvankar, founder of Plaza, joins to discuss the groundbreaking launch of on-chain bonds and leverage products built on Base. From a 10% ETH-backed yield to the role of institutions in DeFi, Ryan explores how Plaza is redefining decentralized finance. Tune in to understand why long-term ETH investments could outpace market cycles and how programmable derivatives are unlocking new possibilities for investors.


Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.ventures


📚 Chapters


00:00 Why Long-Term Matters

02:10 Plaza Mainnet Launch

05:30 ETH Investment: Long vs Short

11:01 Institutional Adoption & Stablecoins

16:13 RWA Tokenization Challenges

23:59 Plaza Bonds & Leverage

31:13 ETH Bonds Offer 10% Yield

36:07 From Cosmos to Base


📎 Links

Plaza Finance - https://plaza.finance/

Plaza Docs (Overview) - https://docs.plaza.finance/


🌐 Socials

Ryan Galvankar - https://x.com/unhedged21

Sebastien Couture - https://x.com/seb3point0

Plaza - https://x.com/plaza_finance


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7 months ago
43 minutes 23 seconds

The Interop
"Liquidity Fragmentation Isn't a Technical Problem, It's an Economic One" - Josh Bowen of Astria

Most rollups today aren’t sovereign. They rely on a single sequencer, creating a major centralization risk. Josh Bowen, CEO of Astria Labs breaks down how shared sequencing fixes this—eliminating blockchain silos and making rollups more secure and interoperable. Without shared infrastructure, modular blockchains just become fragmented networks. We explore the trade-offs in existing rollup solutions, why DA layers aren’t enough, and how Astria is reshaping the rollup landscape by removing single points of failure. This is how rollups can stay independent while still working together. The future of Ethereum scaling is here.


Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.ventures


📚 Chapters

00:00 What Is Astria

02:10 Rollup Problems Today

06:30 Why Sequencers Matter

10:45 Fixing Interop & Silos

14:55 Modular Chains Are Siloed

19:20 Shared vs. Solo Sequencing

23:40 What’s Next for Scaling


📎 Links

Astria Labs - https://www.astria.org/


🌐 Socials

Josh Bowen - https://x.com/Jskybowen

Sebastien Couture - https://x.com/seb3point0

Astria - https://x.com/AstriaOrg


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7 months ago
49 minutes 27 seconds

The Interop
Build A Chain In Any Language with Melanie Mohr of PWR Labs

Melanie Mohr, Co-founder of PWR Labs, joins to talk about building a new kind of blockchain infrastructure—one that finally bridges Web2 and Web3. PWR Chain separates consensus from execution, enabling developers to build their own chains—called VIDAs—in any language: JavaScript, Python, C++, Rust, Move, Solidity. No VM restrictions, no validators required, and no gas tokens needed.


We dive into:

– How PWR Chain rethinks the Layer 1 / Layer 2 stack

– Why most blockchains failed to attract developers

– How DPoP (Delegated Proof of Power) secures the base layer

– What makes VIDAs different from L2s and appchains

– The potential for massive corporate adoption


PWR Chain isn’t just another L1. It’s a new model for scaling decentralized applications—built to handle the next 10 million developers.


Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.ventures


📚 Chapters

00:00 Introduction

02:10 Powerchain’s Edge

06:13 Developer Challenges

11:22 Evolving Coding Standards

17:53 Consensus and Validation

24:04 Efficient Blockchain Design

28:58 Data and Scaling

34:35 Flexible Virtual Machines

40:38 Power Token Insights

45:57 Closing Thoughts


📎 Links

PWR Chain (White Paper) - https://whitepaperv2.pwrlabs.io/

PWR Chain Website - www.pwrlabs.io


🌐 Socials (X)

Melanie Mohr - https://x.com/mohrwom

Sebastien Couture - https://x.com/seb3point0

PWR Labs - https://x.com/pwrlabs


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7 months ago
47 minutes 40 seconds

The Interop
Hold DOGE, XRP, LTC? MoreMarkets Lets You Stake It!

Altan Tutar, CEO of MoreMarkets (formerly Nuffle Labs), shares how the platform unlocks the potential of dormant crypto assets like Doge and XRP. By leveraging innovative infrastructure, MoreMarkets makes it easy for users to participate in DeFi without bridging risks. Altan discusses the evolution from NEAR DA to enabling seamless cross-chain staking and liquidity. Dive into the conversation on restaking, fast finality layers, and the future of crypto usability.


Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.ventures


📚 Chapters


00:00 Meet Altan Tutar

01:30 Why MoreMarkets?

04:20 Unlocking Dinosaur Assets

07:00 Bridging vs. Locking

09:50 Staking Rewards Explained

13:20 Eigenlayer's Impact

16:00 NEAR DA Insights

21:10 AI in Liquidity

26:30 DeFi Risks Simplified

33:00 KYC Issues in Crypto

36:50 MoreMarkets Roadmap


📎 Links

MoreMarkets - https://moremarkets.xyz/


🌐 Socials

Altan Tutar - https://x.com/mraltantutar

Sebastien Couture - https://x.com/seb3point0

MoreMarkets - https://x.com/moremarketsxyz


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7 months ago
38 minutes 52 seconds

The Interop
Symbiotic Mainnet: Why Modular Restaking Matters with Felix Lutsch

Felix Lutsch, Head of Ecosystem at Symbiotic, dives deep into the future of blockchain security, modular restaking systems, and the challenges of decentralization. Learn how Symbiotic’s flexible architecture is paving the way for innovative use cases like insurance, multi-asset staking, and RWA integration. Felix also shares insights on Ethereum, Cosmos, and Bitcoin’s evolving role in DeFi.


Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.ventures


📎 Links

Symbiotic Mainnet - https://blog.symbiotic.fi/symbiotic-arrives-on-mainnet/

Symbiotic - https://symbiotic.fi/


🌐 Socials

Sebastien Couture - https://x.com/seb3point0

Felix Lutsch - https://x.com/FelixLts

The Interop Podcast - https://x.com/TheInterop


📚 Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Felix Lutsch

01:43 Symbiotic's Vision & Evolution

04:03 Alignment with Cosmos & Polkadot

06:18 Multi-Asset Approach Explained

09:03 Bitcoin's Role in Symbiotic

11:49 Trends & Applications

16:08 Real World Assets Integration

23:09 Unique Vaults & Partnerships

28:07 Mainnet Launch Metrics

34:11 Future Prospects for Symbiotic

35:18 Centralization Concerns & Staking


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8 months ago
38 minutes 37 seconds

The Interop
USDN: Real Yield & Programmability in One Stablecoin with Jelena Djuric of Noble

Jelena Djuric, CEO and co-founder of Noble, joins Sebastien Couture to discuss Noble’s groundbreaking updates. From the launch of the $USDN, a composable yield stablecoin, to its role in the Cosmos and EVM ecosystems, Jelena reveals how Noble is reshaping stablecoin issuance and real-world asset integration. Explore how Noble leverages IBC to eliminate fragmentation, drive adoption, and enable seamless liquidity across ecosystems.


Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.ventures


📚 Chapters


00:00 Introduction

01:01 What is Noble Dollar?

02:11 Scaling as a Founder

03:37 Team Expansion & Hiring

06:24 USDC Growth on Noble

10:18 Stablecoin Use Cases

14:09 IBC Eureka

22:06 Proof of Authority Explained

34:16 Launching the Noble Dollar

41:23 Future Plans for Noble Token

46:42 The Role of Cosmos and IBC


📎 Links

Noble's Website


🌐 Socials

Jelana Djuric on X

Sebastien Couture

Noble on X


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8 months ago
52 minutes 2 seconds

The Interop
Will Stablecoins Replace Traditional Money? with Ryne Saxe of ECO

Stablecoins are changing the game in crypto. 🚀 Join us as Ryne Saxe, CEO of Eco, explains how his platform is building seamless cross-chain liquidity and making stablecoins the gateway for mass crypto adoption. Discover how stablecoins simplify payments, power emerging markets, and enable groundbreaking financial innovation. With insights on institutional adoption, user-friendly designs, and yield opportunities, this episode is a must-watch for crypto enthusiasts and builders alike.


Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.ventures


📚 Chapters


00:00 Introduction

02:10 Driving Crypto Adoption

06:43 Stablecoins in Emerging Markets

12:14 Institutional Stablecoins Coming

20:09 Simplifying On-Chain Payments

26:10 Eco’s Vision Explained

30:09 Yield with Crowd Liquidity

35:43 Intent-Based Transactions

42:11 Solving Cross-Chain Issues

50:39 Eco + Hyperlane


📎 Links

Eco Website - https://eco.com/


🌐 Socials

Ryne Saxe - https://x.com/rynesaxe

Sebastien Couture - https://x.com/seb3point0

Eco - https://x.com/eco


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8 months ago
57 minutes 32 seconds

The Interop
The Shocking Truth About Crypto Privacy

Join Adrian Brink, co-founder of Anoma, as he delves into groundbreaking concepts reshaping blockchain technology. Explore how Namada is leading the charge in privacy-first crypto systems and why intent-based protocols are the future. Learn about the push for user-controlled data, resilient systems for a chaotic world, and how decentralized blockchains can enable new applications. Get insights into building systems that protect user privacy while driving real-world adoption.


Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.ventures


📚 Chapters

00:00 Introduction

00:43 Transparency Limits Blockchain

01:05 What Is Namada?

03:45 How Namada & Anoma Differ

06:24 Crypto’s Transparency

07:18 How AI Fits Into This

13:28 Endgame for Intents

18:49 AI Blockchain Apps

23:18 How Super Apps Fit In

30:19 Namada’s Roadmap

33:07 Privacy Practices to Improve

39:01 Regulation & Compliance


📎 Links

Anoma's Website


🌐 Socials

Adrian Brink

Sebastien Couture

Anoma

Namada


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8 months ago
41 minutes 26 seconds

The Interop
AI & Blockchain Will Redefine Everything

Illia Polosukhin, co-founder of NEAR Protocol, discusses the intersection of AI, blockchain, and crypto's evolving role in the global economy. From regulatory clarity to the rise of AI-driven super apps, Illia explains how these technologies will disrupt industries, empower users, and challenge traditional systems.


📚Chapters

01:40 The State of Crypto


06:16 Why AI Startups Avoid Crypto


11:51 Regulation’s Role in Innovation

17:13 AI Agents Meet Blockchain


22:22 The Rise of Super Apps


33:29 Trusted Execution Environments (TEEs)


37:18 Near’s Multi-layered Stack


42:38 What’s Next for Near Protocol?


📎Links

Consider staking with Interop Ventures

NEAR Protocol


🌐 Socials

Illia Polosukhin

Sebastien Couture

NEAR Protocol on X


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9 months ago
43 minutes 9 seconds

The Interop
AI Agents will Empower DeFi in 2025

AI agents are transforming blockchain and DeFi. SAFE’s modular smart accounts provide secure tools for agents to manage funds and drive innovation. Discover how autonomous agents enable synthetic economies, revolutionize transactions, and unlock new possibilities in DeFi, gaming, and beyond. SAFE is leading this shift with cutting-edge infrastructure and open-source technology for 2025 and beyond. Alexis Savvides shares insights into synthetic economies, autonomous agents, and how this technology is reshaping DeFi, gaming, and beyond.


🎧 Listen to The Interop on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/58QAYwzVjCLrWR8E4tWbgm


📚 Chapters

00:00 Welcome to the SAFE Podcast

00:36 Latest Innovations

02:59 AI and Crypto Overview

05:18 Understanding AI Agents

11:12 Levels of AI Agents

14:14 Agents in On-Chain Transactions

17:24 AI Models Driving Innovation

19:51 SAFE’s Role in AI

22:41 Developer Opportunities

27:22 AI Agents Replacing Developers

29:04 Humans in a Synthetic Economy


🌐 Socials

Alexis - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexissavvides

Sebastien Couture - https://x.com/seb3point0


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9 months ago
31 minutes 6 seconds

The Interop
Biconomy’s “Supertransactions” are changing the way we use crypto

Ahmed Al-Balaghi and Mislav Javor dive deep into their mission to simplify Web3 for developers and users alike. From gasless transactions to modular execution environments, this episode explores how Biconomy is tackling blockchain UX challenges. Learn about super transactions, multichain scaling, and the vision for a seamless Web3 future.


Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.ventures


🎧 Listen to The Interop on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/58QAYwzVjCLrWR8E4tWbgm


📚 Chapters

00:00 Introduction

01:05 The Origins of Biconomy

03:36 Evolution of Mission & Products

06:42 Staying Focused Through Market Cycles

11:16 Introducing Modular Execution Environment (MEE)

17:00 ERC 4337 vs. MEE

26:19 What Are Super Transactions?

35:02 Supporting EVMs & Non-EVM Chains

40:36 Challenges in Gasless Transactions

44:48 Decentralization vs. User Experience

50:17 Exploring AI Agents in Web3

57:49 Biconomy’s Roadmap for 2025


🌐 Socials

Ahmed Al-Balaghi - https://x.com/arabalaghi

Mislav Javor - https://x.com/ox_shaman

Sebastien Couture - https://x.com/seb3point0


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9 months ago
1 hour 12 seconds

The Interop
Morpho: Building a Unicorn from College with Paul Frambot

Paul Frambot, co-founder and CEO of Morpho Labs, joins the show to discuss Morpho’s transformative impact on decentralized lending. From building a permissionless protocol to scaling Morpho’s ecosystem to $6 billion TVL, Paul shares insights into the protocol’s unique architecture, the challenges of creating risk-managed lending markets, and why Morpho is distinct from platforms like AAVE. With discussions on token strategies, cross-chain deployments, and institutional DeFi adoption, this episode is packed with actionable insights for the DeFi space.


Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.ventures


📚 Chapters

00:00 Intro & Paul Frambot’s Journey

01:49 Building Morpho in France

06:07 What Makes Morpho Unique

11:32 Curators’ Role in Risk Management

20:14 Fee Switch & Open Source Transition

29:52 Token Transferability

35:37 Scaling Morpho Cross-Chain

44:41 Fintechs & Institutional DeFi Adoption

47:03 Is Morpho Competing with AAVE?

49:25 Challenges of Building Morpho


🔗 Links

Morpho’s Mission: https://morpho.mirror.xyz/Df_r4-mDzR-xFLA3P3amuhzwq4GjuuNOnOiiVizx6ZU


MIP 87 - Crosschain Deployments Framework: https://forum.morpho.org/t/mip-87-crosschain-deployments-framework/1199


Call for Grants: https://forum.morpho.org/t/call-for-grants/1177



🌐 Socials

Paul Frambot - https://x.com/PaulFrambot

Morpho Labs - https://morpho.org/

Sebastien Couture - https://x.com/seb3point0


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9 months ago
51 minutes 51 seconds

The Interop
How Movement CRUSHED its token launch with Ali Sheikh

Movement launched its token to massive success, surpassing FDV expectations and igniting a vibrant ecosystem of Move powered applications. Ali Sheikh shares insights on their strategic TGE, the Move language’s impact on blockchain security, and the roadmap ahead.


Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.ventures


📚 Chapters

00:00 Intro & Background

02:10 From VC to Builder

04:30 Movement’s TGE Lessons

07:45 MOVE’s Role in Security

10:55 Movement’s Culture of Success

14:20 Supporting Ecosystem Projects

18:30 TGE Challenges

23:00 MOVE Liquid Staking & Utility

27:00 What’s Next for Movement

31:00 Emerging Markets & Developer Growth

34:30 MoveVM vs. EVM

38:00 Community Growth Initiatives

42:00 Final Thoughts & Series B Plans


🌐 Socials

Ali Sheikh - https://x.com/analyticalali

Movement Labs - https://x.com/movementlabsxyz

Sebastien Couture - https://x.com/seb3point0


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9 months ago
44 minutes 32 seconds

The Interop
Bitcoin L2s will take off in 2025 | Charlie Hu of BitLayer

Charlie Hu, co-founder of BitLayer, discusses the evolution of Bitcoin Layer 2 solutions, the significance of BitVM, and the interaction between Bitcoin L2s and core developers. He shares how BitLayer enhances Bitcoin scaling, the implications of institutional interest in Bitcoin, and the future of DeFi on the platform, highlighting the importance of partnerships and the potential risks associated with institutional capture of Bitcoin's core values.

📚 Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:55 Charlie’s transition to Bitcoin development 05:30 The rise of ordinals and Bitcoin primitives 10:18 Scaling Bitcoin: From on-chain to Layer 2 18:20 Challenges in integrating with Bitcoin Core 24:02 How Bitlayer enhances Bitcoin scalability 32:45 BitVM and trust-minimized bridges explained 39:49 What is OP_CAT and its potential impact? 46:08 The Bitcoin Defi ecosystem and its growth 50:14 Institutional interest in Bitcoin defi 56:11 Partnerships with Binance Wallet and adoption strategies 🌐 Socials Charlie Hu: https://x.com/charliehusats Bitlayer: https://x.com/bitlayerlabs Sebastien Couture: https://x.com/seb3point0 🔔 Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and turn on notifications to stay updated with the latest insights in blockchain technology!

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9 months ago
1 hour 28 seconds

The Interop
How Electron Cuts ZK Proving Costs by 95% with Garvit Goel

In this conversation, Garvit Goel, CEO of Electron, discusses the advancements and future plans of Electron, a platform designed to significantly reduce the costs associated with verifying zero-knowledge (ZK) proofs on Ethereum and other blockchains. The discussion covers the launch of their flagship product, Quantum, the integration of various proving systems, the importance of decentralization, and the potential future use cases for ZK technology. Garvit emphasizes the need for a universal aggregation layer and the competitive landscape in the ZK ecosystem, while also addressing the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead for Electron and its partners.

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📚 Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:20 Electron’s Mission 03:30 Why ZK Proofs Are Expensive 05:50 Quantum: The Aggregation Layer 08:46 Supporting Multiple Proving Systems 12:00 Innovations in Aggregation 16:34 Decentralizing the Prover Network 22:09 Protocols Using Quantum 27:41 Use Cases for ZK Rollups 35:06 Plans for Bitcoin and Other L1s 38:34 Mainnet and Future Plans 🌐 SocialsElectron's Official Website: electron.dev Stay connected with Electron: X : @ElectronZK

Follow Garvit Goel: GitHub: garvitgoel Medium: garvitgoel.medium.com Instagram: @garvitgoel_

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10 months ago
40 minutes

The Interop
Shared Security for AVS Explained | Abhishek Kumar (CEO at Catalysis)

"Economic security is not free, but Catalysis helps you find the most cost-effective solution.”


Watch Abhishek Kumar, co-founder and CEO of Catalysis explain the role of Catalysis in providing abstraction layers for restaking protocols, enabling AVS builders to tap into diverse economic security sources while simplifying development. This episode explores the AVS landscape, the challenges of decentralization, and how Catalysis is solving interoperability and cost issues to accelerate innovation in decentralized app ecosystems.


Topics:

- The role of shared security in decentralized applications

- Challenges and benefits of AVS (actively validated services)

- How Catalysis abstracts restaking protocol complexities

- Trade-offs between app chains and rollups

- The future of multi-chain economic security

- Economic and liquidity benefits of diversified security sources

- Upcoming roadmap and milestones for Catalysis

- Tools like the Catalysis SDK for developers

- Risks and mitigations for cascading slashes

- Emerging markets enabled by Catalysis (e.g., bribing and arbitrage)


Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Overview

01:19 What is Catalysis?

03:32 AVS Landscape and Growth

05:46 App Chains vs. Rollups

08:32 Breaking Down Blockchain Stacks

13:15 Catalysis SDK and Tools

17:52 Economic Security Explained

25:27 Benefits of Diversified Security

37:44 Interoperability Challenges Solved

42:37 Emerging Markets in Shared Security

46:03 Catalysis Roadmap and Future


Referenced:

- Catalysis Blog: https://catalysis.medium.com/

- Catalysis on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0xcatalysis

- Catalysis Website: https://catalysis.network/

- Blog Post: https://catalysis.medium.com/why-catalysis-enabling-a-future-with-thousands-of-avss-9197bedcf283

- Proof of Stake Mechanisms with Strong Cryptoeconomic Safety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaHj9UYoiU0


Follow Abhishek Kumar, Co-founder and CEO of Catalysis

• Abhishek Kumar on X - https://x.com/xenowits

• Catalysis on X - https://x.com/0xcatalysis


Follow Sebastien Couture, Host of The Interop on Social Media

• Sebastien Couture on X - https://x.com/seb3point0

• The Interop on X - https://x.com/TheInterop


Explore 'The Interop' playlist: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7ohpd7RttERAZqb2iWKNOA/playlists/playlists


Listen to 'The Interop' on Spotify:

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10 months ago
48 minutes 35 seconds

The Interop
Bringing XRP, ADA, BTC, and LTC to DeFi w/ Larry Lyu of Dango

"Dango is simplifying margin trading in DeFi."


Hundreds of billions of dollars of liquidity in $BCH, $DOGE, $XRP, $ADA and other assets is mostly absent from DeFi, not to mention Bitcoin. Imagine if we could fully utilize that TVL.


That’s what Dango wants to achieve. Right after they rebuild the entire DeFi stack...


The team built Grug as a new CosmWasm-based chain purpose-made for DeFi:


- On-chain credit account

- By-default smart accounts

- No wallet, passkey-first approach

- Fees paid in USDC

- 0.5-second block times & 2,000 TPS

- Secure Rust-based smart contracts


They created Grug so they could be its first customer, building an ecosystem of DeFi apps: a spot DEX, a perp DEX, and a margin account for borrowing and lending.


With a relentless focus on UX and an upcoming Mica-compliant ICO, I’m bullish on Dango setting a new standard for on-chain apps.


Topics

- Grug: A blockchain VM with smart accounts and cron jobs.

- The challenges and benefits of Passkeys in blockchain.

- Dango's focus on user-friendly DeFi and margin trading.

- Integrating "dinosaur" assets like BCH and XRP into DeFi.

- ICO strategy compliant with Mika regulations.

- Tokenomics: Low-supply token design and buyback mechanism.

- Proof-of-Authority vs. traditional Proof-of-Stake chains.

- Decentralizing Grug: Long-term roadmap for scalability.


Chapters

00:00 Introduction

01:12 Grug VM

06:05 Smart Accounts

13:38 DeFi Margin Trading

20:09 Dango’s UX

27:21 Dinosaur Assets

41:26 Passkeys Security

43:01 PoA Approach

53:21 Mica-Compliant ICO

58:50 Tokenomics

61:55 Demo Net & Roadmap


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10 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes 52 seconds

The Interop
Can Cosmos Become a Top 3 Ecosystem? Maghnus Mareneck & Josh Cincinnati

Cosmos is gearing up for a new era. Join Josh Cincinnati, Chair of the Interchain Foundation Council, and Magnus Marinak, Co-Founder of Interchain Labs, as they discuss the bold steps being taken to redefine the Cosmos ecosystem. From unifying development to attracting institutional liquidity, this conversation dives into the hub's role, rebranding debates, and the future of decentralized blockchain architecture.


Topics

- The ICF's acquisition of Skip and its rebranding as Interchain Labs.

- Vision of multiple sovereign blockchains and ecosystem growth.

- Attracting institutional liquidity to the Cosmos Hub.

- The role of the Cosmos Hub in uniting the ecosystem.

- Reorganizing development for efficiency and innovation.

- Addressing community feedback and restructuring governance.

- Leveraging the Hub’s assets for broader ecosystem growth.

- Overcoming Cosmos branding challenges and embracing its history.

- Building privacy-first solutions unique to Cosmos architecture.

- Scaling the ecosystem with liquidity, speed, and alignment.


Chapters

00:00 Introduction

01:56 Community’s Reaction to the Acquisition

06:41 Why the ICF Chose Radical Change

13:10 The Cosmos Vision: A Top-Three Ecosystem

20:01 Unlocking Liquidity for Ecosystem Growth

30:32 Cosmos Hub’s Role in Ecosystem Alignment

38:50 Addressing Cosmos Branding Challenges

46:43 Plans for Conferences and Community Engagement

52:42 ICF and Interchain Labs: Dividing Responsibilities

58:47 Why the Cosmos Community Should Be Bullish


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10 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 25 seconds

The Interop
Technical deep dives with the entrepreneurs and developers building the decentralized economics networks which make up the Interchain. The Interop is hosted by crypto investor and podcaster @seb3point0.