In this gripping episode of The Interesting MD Podcast, Dr. Rob Beck talks with Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, former CDC leader and infectious disease expert, about the deepening crisis inside America’s public health institutions. Dr. Daskalakis recounts the CDC shooting tragedy that left Officer David Rose dead and staff traumatized, while exposing how misinformation, ideology, and political control are dismantling scientific integrity from within. He explains how the CDC has lost much of its leadership, credibility, and expertise, and warns of a “dark age” for public health. They discuss the emotional toll on physicians, the parallels to authoritarian regimes, and how doctors can fight back through truth-telling, professional solidarity, and self-care. A sobering yet hopeful call to action for the medical community, and anyone who believes science still matters.   Podcast Link: The Interesting MD Podcast YouTube Link: The Interesting MD Website Link: https://www.interestingmd.com/ Have a content suggestion?Email us at Ideas@interestingmd.com Contact meEmail us at Rob@interestingmd.com