The answer to the Reverse Turing Test is: MARU Important Links Abdelaziz Musa (Host) – LinkedIn Cameron Tope (Guest) – LinkedIn Rooya – www.rooya.ai The Impact Lab – www.theimpactlab.store Cush Digital – www.cush.digital Follow The Impact Lab: TikTok | Instagram | LinkedIn | X (Twitter) This Week’s Guest: Cameron Tope Cameron Tope is the founder of Rooya, a computer vision telematics company operating across the UK and the Middle East. With a background as an actuary, Cameron’s unique ability to model risk has become his startup superpower — allowing him to build a company that’s transforming road safety through AI. Having previously worked at Willis Towers Watson and Munich Re, Cameron shares the shift from corporate life to entrepreneurship, the quiet pain of early-stage startups, and what it really takes to win in markets like Saudi Arabia. Summary In this episode, we dive into what it means to build a business where every decision is a calculated risk — literally. Cameron joins me to talk about his journey from actuary to founder, and how he’s using AI-powered telematics to help Saudi Arabia become one of the safest driving nations on Earth. We explore the transferable skills from the actuarial world, the emotional cost of building something from nothing, and why understanding risk might be the single most underrated founder trait. Cameron also discusses how Saudi Arabia’s unique driving culture, Vision 2030 ambition, and operational complexity make it the ideal market for Rooya’s technology — and what other founders get wrong when they enter the region. If you’ve ever tried to raise funding, scale a tech company in a new market, or build without data — this one is for you. Takeaways Risk modeling is a founder superpower: It helps guide decisions through realism, not hype. Saudi Arabia is leapfrogging: And it’s the perfect testbed for high-impact fleet AI. Actuarial thinking transfers: From insurance pricing to computer vision deployment. Founders underestimate loneliness: Grit, not IQ, is what gets you through. Startups are born from instinct: Rooya started with no data, just theory. Hiring from corporate is risky: Some people just can’t make the leap. Fundraising is way harder than you think: The hype doesn’t match the grind. Operational focus > Insurance focus: In Saudi, fleet managers care more about logistics than premiums. Culture shapes behavior: Driving norms in KSA required different model training. Payroll fear is real: Until you’ve felt it, you haven’t really run a business. Keywords Saudi startups, computer vision, fleet telematics, AI safety, actuarial modeling, startup loneliness, fundraising challenges, Vision 2030, Middle East market, insurance tech, risk analysis, founder grit, driving behavior AI, Riyadh entrepreneurship, Rooya.ai   00:00 Introduction to Cameron Tope and Rooya10:19 The Genesis of Rooya: From Actuary to Entr...