Wesley chat with Lisa, Programme Manager at Fair-Trade Tourism; a certification body for travel operators. Lisa is an expert on certification and so this episode is very insightful and has helpful information for both travellers and travel businesses. She kicks us off by stating that, 'Tourism creates better places to live and work, and better places to visit'. Lisa does not like to be bogged down by strict definitions and so she alludes to common sense being the best way to decide what is sustainable and to inform your sustainable travel choices. 

Some of the points Lisa raised including, sustainable travel businesses embrace what it means to be truly local and it comes through in the experience they provide. She urges travellers and operators alike to make deliberate choices when choosing laundry service, where to buy beverages and food from. It's important to look through the entire chain to ensure even the suppliers conduct ethical practices.