In this episode of the Hands on CISO podcast, Adi speaks with Anthony Scarf, the director of security assurance and deputy CISO at Elastic. Anthony shares his journey into the field of security, discussing his transition from technical roles to management, the importance of empathy in security, and the challenges of prioritizing security initiatives. He emphasizes the need for a culture of conversation around security, the impact of AI on the industry, and the evolving responsibilities of security teams. The conversation also touches on the difficulties of managing security incidents, maintaining a calm environment, and the diverse backgrounds that can contribute to a successful career in security.