In this episode of the Hands on CISO podcast, Adi interviews Bas Volkers, an interim CISO with extensive experience in crisis management and business optimization. Bas discusses the unique challenges and responsibilities of being an interim CISO, emphasizing the importance of data management, understanding the evolving cyber threat landscape, and the need for effective communication with management. He highlights the human factors in security, the balance between education and control, and the future of the CISO role as a trusted business partner rather than just a technical expert.