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The Genius Scale Podcast
Jose Cervino
33 episodes
3 days ago
If you were to speak to B2B leaders about growing business, you'd see that business growth can usually be divided into levels - and each level requires a new set of tactics or strategies to get to the next. But we each, especially in the B2B space, also operate in some zone of genius that we aim to contribute to others. Some in saturated markets where they need to break free. Others in emerging markets where they need to achieve salient clarity. Either way, we saw they needed a platform to speak their mind. Which is why we started the Genius Scale podcast.
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If you were to speak to B2B leaders about growing business, you'd see that business growth can usually be divided into levels - and each level requires a new set of tactics or strategies to get to the next. But we each, especially in the B2B space, also operate in some zone of genius that we aim to contribute to others. Some in saturated markets where they need to break free. Others in emerging markets where they need to achieve salient clarity. Either way, we saw they needed a platform to speak their mind. Which is why we started the Genius Scale podcast.
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Pat Utz, Abstract | $9M AI Tracks 140K Government Sites So Lawyers Don't Have To
The Genius Scale Podcast
29 minutes 35 seconds
1 month ago
Pat Utz, Abstract | $9M AI Tracks 140K Government Sites So Lawyers Don't Have To

In this episode, we sit down with Pat Utz—co-founder of Abstract and Forbes 30 Under 30 entrepreneur—who's building the most comprehensive regulatory monitoring system ever created. While most companies react to regulatory changes after they hit, Abstract's AI monitors 140,000+ government entities twice daily, from federal agencies to special districts, helping Fortune 500 companies and top law firms stay ahead of policy shifts that could reshape entire industries.

Pat reveals how his team's cold-calling 200+ potential clients led to breakthrough insights about proactive risk management, and why "infinite intelligence" through AI will fundamentally disrupt white-collar analyst work. With unprecedented regulatory change from the current administration creating the "most amount of change we've seen in decades," Abstract's platform becomes critical infrastructure for navigating policy chaos. From tariff implications to executive orders, this conversation explores how AI can process millions of regulatory data points to predict business impact before it happens.


Key Topics

  • Regulatory intelligence at scale: Monitoring 140,000+ government entities daily
  • $9M+ funding journey from college research project to enterprise platform
  • Proactive vs reactive compliance: Moving beyond traditional legal tech
  • Three critical impact vectors: Product, labor, and taxation disruption
  • Current political climate driving unprecedented regulatory velocity
  • "Infinite intelligence" concept and the future of analyst-level work
  • AI workflow automation replacing manual document review processes
  • Citation-based AI systems for legal and regulatory accuracy
  • Enterprise customization for law firms and Fortune 500 companies
  • Government data chaos: Structuring millions of changes across inconsistent websites
  • Entry-level disruption in white-collar professional services
  • Context-driven AI deployment for specific regulatory workflows


Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Abstract and Pat Utz

03:38 The Journey of Building Abstract

09:12 Understanding the Regulatory Landscape

14:50 The Role of AI in Compliance and Risk Management

20:52 Navigating Change in a Dynamic Environment

26:45 The Future of Work and AI's Impact


Keywords: AI regulation, legal tech, government transparency, regulatory compliance, policy monitoring, startup funding, workflow automation, enterprise AI, legal intelligence, risk management, government affairs, regulatory change


The Genius Scale Podcast
If you were to speak to B2B leaders about growing business, you'd see that business growth can usually be divided into levels - and each level requires a new set of tactics or strategies to get to the next. But we each, especially in the B2B space, also operate in some zone of genius that we aim to contribute to others. Some in saturated markets where they need to break free. Others in emerging markets where they need to achieve salient clarity. Either way, we saw they needed a platform to speak their mind. Which is why we started the Genius Scale podcast.