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The Genius Scale Podcast
Jose Cervino
33 episodes
3 days ago
If you were to speak to B2B leaders about growing business, you'd see that business growth can usually be divided into levels - and each level requires a new set of tactics or strategies to get to the next. But we each, especially in the B2B space, also operate in some zone of genius that we aim to contribute to others. Some in saturated markets where they need to break free. Others in emerging markets where they need to achieve salient clarity. Either way, we saw they needed a platform to speak their mind. Which is why we started the Genius Scale podcast.
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If you were to speak to B2B leaders about growing business, you'd see that business growth can usually be divided into levels - and each level requires a new set of tactics or strategies to get to the next. But we each, especially in the B2B space, also operate in some zone of genius that we aim to contribute to others. Some in saturated markets where they need to break free. Others in emerging markets where they need to achieve salient clarity. Either way, we saw they needed a platform to speak their mind. Which is why we started the Genius Scale podcast.
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AI Masters: Mike May, Mountain Theory | Why Your AI Will Get Hacked (And How to Stop It)
The Genius Scale Podcast
35 minutes 37 seconds
1 month ago
AI Masters: Mike May, Mountain Theory | Why Your AI Will Get Hacked (And How to Stop It)

Bad actors are weaponizing AI faster than businesses can secure it. Mike May, CEO of Mountain Theory and 25-year cybersecurity veteran (17 M&A deals in one year), drops hard truths about the 72% of companies already using AI without protection—and reveals his "separation of powers" framework that's keeping Fortune 500s alive. While everyone's rushing to deploy AI, May exposes the ByteDance intern attack that cost "tens of millions" and why your anomaly detection is probably useless against agentic AI attacks. With quantum computing about to shred current encryption "like tissue paper" and AI already passing Turing tests, this isn't just compliance—it's survival.

May breaks down how multi-model separation prevents catastrophic single points of failure, why nation-state actors are already inside your systems (you just don't know it), and what businesses must do RIGHT NOW before autonomous AI attackers eliminate the human element entirely. His business partner invented 2FA and helped implement FBI fingerprinting—they're not messing around.

Key Topics

  • 72% of companies using AI without security (293M companies globally)
  • ByteDance intern attack: How one malicious algorithm cost "tens of millions"
  • Why current anomaly detection fails against agentic AI that "hits roadblocks and keeps going"
  • Nation-state vs hacktivist attacks: The invisible data siphoning you'll never detect
  • Multi-model separation: Stop putting "all your eggs in one basket"
  • Quantum + AI convergence: "Leave that there" moment that changes everything
  • AI-to-AI attacks through JIPR protocols without human intervention
  • SOC 2, NIST, GDPR compliance gaps in AI-first companies
  • $4K budget can now build agentic AI—including for bad actors


Chapters

  • 00:00 Introduction to AI Security and Separation of Powers
  • 02:00 Understanding the Separation of Powers Framework
  • 04:28 Integrating AI Security into Business Models
  • 07:12 Anomaly Detection in AI Systems
  • 09:36 The Role of AI in Cybersecurity
  • 11:57 The Future of AI and Cybersecurity
  • 14:33 The Impact of AI on Business Operations
  • 17:03 The Importance of Security Certifications
  • 19:36 Separation of Concerns in AI Development
  • 21:57 Unique Vulnerabilities in AI Systems
  • 23:54 Educating the Public on AI and Cybersecurity
  • 26:02 The Future Landscape of AI and Quantum Computing


Keywords: AI security, separation of powers, anomaly detection, cybersecurity, agentic AI, business operations, AI regulations, quantum computing, trust in AI, AI vulnerabilities


The Genius Scale Podcast
If you were to speak to B2B leaders about growing business, you'd see that business growth can usually be divided into levels - and each level requires a new set of tactics or strategies to get to the next. But we each, especially in the B2B space, also operate in some zone of genius that we aim to contribute to others. Some in saturated markets where they need to break free. Others in emerging markets where they need to achieve salient clarity. Either way, we saw they needed a platform to speak their mind. Which is why we started the Genius Scale podcast.