Clive and Macie discuss whether everyone should learn the basics of cooking as a "life skill". In Clive’s time at school cooking was regarded as a "Girls" subject while Boys did woodwork. Macie has learned what is now called Food Tech at school and does some cooking for herself at home. She admits to being a "fussy" eater so is cautious about Clive’s suggestions for trying different foods during her upcoming holiday around Europe.