Lizzy and Ciara explore their shifting identities around self, gender, and sport along with guest host Alex Defuso (yes, the one Ciara has mentioned no less than 10 times in past episodes). Alex shares her experience with being misgendered as a masc presenting woman, and dives into her complex relationship with rowing that was caused by the loss of her Senior season in 2020. Pandemic kids, you'll want to give this one a listen, you may find some comfort in knowing you're not the only one out there who struggled. Lizzy shares her shifting identity with a new career step away from Rowing World, and Ciara chats about their relationship with their body during injury.

The pants Lizzy talks about at one point: https://www.dickies.com/home

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