The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill
Michael Mogill
415 episodes
9 hours ago
How can you become a game changer?
Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue.
In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer.
We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture.
What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company.
Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level.
For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/
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How can you become a game changer?
Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue.
In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer.
We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture.
What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company.
Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level.
For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/
410. The Firm of the Future Won’t Wait for You to Catch Up
The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill
27 minutes
3 weeks ago
410. The Firm of the Future Won’t Wait for You to Catch Up
What happens when the nation’s most successful law firm owners debate where the legal industry is headed next?
As part of the “Road to the Summit”, a special series ramping up to the 2025 Game Changers Summit this November 12–13, we’re revisiting some of the most powerful conversations ever featured at our events. In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, we revisit the Law Firm of the Future panel live from the 2022 Game Changers Summit, where Michael Mogill sits down with Alexander Shunnarah, Anthony Johnson, Bob Tharp, and Eric Chaffin for an unfiltered conversation about the forces reshaping the legal industry and what it takes to lead in the next era.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
Why Wall Street’s arrival in legal services could transform how firms grow and compete
How to use data, KPIs, and culture to strengthen your firm’s foundation before outside investors do
What it takes to future-proof your business in an era of automation, consolidation, and client-driven expectations
The future of law isn’t waiting — it’s already here. Are you ready to lead it?
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Show Notes:
03:04 – Anthony Johnson explains why the legal industry’s lag in adopting technology will soon give way to rapid automation and smarter processes.
04:44 – Alexander Shunnarah shares how private equity and ABS investment are already reshaping the legal marketplace.
05:35 – Bob Tharp urges firm owners to overcome their fear of KPIs and treat data as the foundation of every decision.
06:32 – Eric Chaffin reveals how “doing good by doing right” became his firm’s rallying call and culture cornerstone.
08:19 – Anthony Johnson breaks down why data has surpassed oil in value and how information drives better firm strategy.
10:22 – Bob Tharp predicts the end of the billable hour and explains why clients will demand flat-rate pricing and cost transparency.
17:18 – Alexander Shunnarah discusses his firm’s evolution from pre-litigation to a full trial practice — and why brand integrity matters.
19:58 – Eric Chaffin shares a deeply personal story of overcoming adversity, proving that humility and vulnerability are essential to leadership.
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Links & Resources:
Alexander Shunnarah Trial Attorneys
Anthony Johnson
Bob Tharp
Eric Chaffin
Rocket Lawyer
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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.
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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill
How can you become a game changer?
Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue.
In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer.
We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture.
What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company.
Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level.
For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/
