In this episode, we sat down with Marisa Zalabak, AI ethicist, educational psychologist, and master facilitator of restorative circles. Marisa brings a powerful human lens to the conversation on trust, exploring how our desire to connect is being challenged by technology designed for separation. She shares insights from decades of work in ethics, education, and indigenous listening practices, offering a timely reminder of what it means to listen, belong, and build trust from the inside out.

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