The Futur Podcast is a show that explores the interesting overlap between design, marketing, and business. Our host (and CEO of The Futur), Chris Do, hold candid conversations with inspirational people from the worlds of design, technology, marketing, business, philosophy and personal development. These conversations go deep. With the aim of understanding who these incredible people are, what drives them to do what they do, and what can we--the listener--learn from it all. Visit thefutur.com/podcast for show notes and additional information from each episode.
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The Futur Podcast is a show that explores the interesting overlap between design, marketing, and business. Our host (and CEO of The Futur), Chris Do, hold candid conversations with inspirational people from the worlds of design, technology, marketing, business, philosophy and personal development. These conversations go deep. With the aim of understanding who these incredible people are, what drives them to do what they do, and what can we--the listener--learn from it all. Visit thefutur.com/podcast for show notes and additional information from each episode.
In this episode, Chris Do explores the constant tension between visionary leadership and operational execution. He breaks down how most leaders naturally lean toward either the CEO archetype — focused on innovation, forecasting, and long-term vision — or the COO type, who ensures systems, structure, and profitability.
Using Steve Jobs as an example, Chris illustrates how true mastery lies in balancing big-picture thinking with an obsessive attention to detail, from pioneering the buttonless phone to handpicking marble for Apple Stores.
Timestamps
(00:00) - Intro
(00:41) - CEO vs. COO Roles Explained
(01:20) - Steve Jobs’ Vision and Detail
(03:15) - Tim Cook’s Operational Leadership
(05:00) - Discover Your Leadership Strength
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The Futur with Chris Do
The Futur Podcast is a show that explores the interesting overlap between design, marketing, and business. Our host (and CEO of The Futur), Chris Do, hold candid conversations with inspirational people from the worlds of design, technology, marketing, business, philosophy and personal development. These conversations go deep. With the aim of understanding who these incredible people are, what drives them to do what they do, and what can we--the listener--learn from it all. Visit thefutur.com/podcast for show notes and additional information from each episode.