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The Freight Show
Vooma
10 episodes
5 days ago
The Freight Show brings stories of freight and logistics leaders who’ve shaped the industry. Through in-depth conversations, we explore their journeys, the challenges they’ve overcome, and the insights that have driven their success. Each episode uncovers the lessons, strategies, and wisdom of these freight leaders.
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The Freight Show brings stories of freight and logistics leaders who’ve shaped the industry. Through in-depth conversations, we explore their journeys, the challenges they’ve overcome, and the insights that have driven their success. Each episode uncovers the lessons, strategies, and wisdom of these freight leaders.
Show more...
Management
Business,
Marketing
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Why Most Brokers Get Freight Pricing Wrong (And How to Fix It)
The Freight Show
47 minutes
3 weeks ago
Why Most Brokers Get Freight Pricing Wrong (And How to Fix It)

Freight analyst ≠ data analyst. In this deep dive, Chadd Olesen, co-founder & CEO of AVRL, explains why averages lie, how “composition scoring” beats lane-by-lane thinking, and what it really takes to make automated spot bidding profitable at scale. We get tactical on separating cost from margin, building region-first strategies, measuring MAPE, and why speed to quote (sub-second!) wins planners’ attention. We also talk participation rules, when not to bid, and how to use routing-guide gaps to win awards.



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VOOMA — back-office automation for freight brokerages & 3PLs (AI document handling, workflow automation). Learn more: https://www.vooma.com/

What you’ll learn

  • Why averages are inflated (incumbents & core lanes) and how to price below “market” without racing to the bottom.
  • Region > lane: composition scoring by market area, factoring deadhead, facility effects, and lead time.
  • Cost vs. margin separation: modeling projected carrier cost at pick time, then layering margin—no black boxes.
  • Automation that actually makes money: who should own it (pricing, not ops), and the cultural buy-in required.
  • Speed as strategy: getting under 1s end-to-end to rank first in planners’ queues (Blue Yonder/API timeout realities).
  • Participation rules: how 70–80% “respond/decide” mandates change bidding strategy—and when to opt out.
  • Turning data into awards: using routing-guide gap analytics to win net-new freight.

Time-stamped highlights

  • 00:01:02 — Chadd’s path from speaking at Walmart events to early enterprise 3PL customers; AVRL’s pivot to pricing.
  • 00:06:09 — Elizabeth, NJ → Chicago vs. nearby Freehold: why two “identical” rates behave differently.
  • 00:11:03 — How AVRL models probability of coverage by region and separates projected cost from margin.
  • 00:17:06 — Who should own automated spot bidding (hint: your pricing org), and why MAPE matters.
  • 00:20:00 — Market Intelligence Team: rebuilding rating engines, parallelizing data pulls, and getting sub-second.
  • 00:24:45 — The real upside: 100% participation, routing-guide visibility, and data-led award wins.
  • 00:29:30 — Avoiding nukes: why selective participation beats bidding “everything.”
  • 00:33:55 — Benchmarks (DAT/Greenscreens): why people blame the data when they’re using it wrong.


Links & references

  • AVRL homepage (company info & “18 companies per year” model). (avrl.io)
  • Transport Topics on AI & optimization (AVRL’s monthly transactional volume quote). (TT News)
  • Additional long-form interviews featuring Chadd & AVRL’s approach. (The Logistics of Logistics)

Guest

Chadd Olesen — CEO & Co-founder, AVRL (Austin, TX)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadd-olesen/
Company: https://avrl.io/ (AVRL — Automation & pricing tech) (LinkedIn)



The Freight Show
The Freight Show brings stories of freight and logistics leaders who’ve shaped the industry. Through in-depth conversations, we explore their journeys, the challenges they’ve overcome, and the insights that have driven their success. Each episode uncovers the lessons, strategies, and wisdom of these freight leaders.