When the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service designated over 300,000 acres as “critical habitat” for the black pine snake—with limited scientific evidence—private landowners pushed back. In this episode, host Michelle Cain talks with Gray Skipper, a landowner directly impacted, and Charles Yates from Pacific Legal Foundation, about how this case became a major legal victory for property rights and what it means for the future of land management across America’s forests.