We often have a lot of different paradigms for leadership, many of which are good and helpful. But first and foremost — according to pastor Tom Nelson — leadership is followership. It may seem paradoxical, but it's a consistent thread in Scripture: Those who lead well, follow well. In this episode of The Flourishing Pastor podcast, Nelson unpacks this dynamic and explains what it looks like for him — and what it can look like for you. As the conversation unfolds, Nelson explains why he sees Psalm 23 as a paradigmatic leadership text. Further topics include the importance of self care and friendship for long-term, healthy, and effective leadership.