Fernando is joined by Paul Jeffery whose winding path from an industrial car designer, to a Walgreens employee, to founding his own furniture company is a story that must be heard to be believed. The two commiserate over the power of staying hungry as creatives, having faith during times of struggle, and the importance of using ones platform to give back to the community.

You can stream episodes of Ellen's Next Great Designer now on HBO Max, with new episodes released every Thursday. Send Fernando a direct message on Instagram @iamfm if you have a question for your favorite contestant, or want him to dig into any topics on the next podcast episode. Fernando will be interviewing each of the contestants, and is excited to give you the inside scoop!

Connect with our guest:
Paul Jeffrey
Paul Rene Furniture | paulrenefurniture.com
Instagram: @paulrene_furniture