In this episode, Nate and Tony embark on a discussion about dealing with suffering and hardship. They explore the universal question of how to handle life's difficult moments without falling apart. Tony shares personal anecdotes about his tendency to isolate himself during tough times and how recognizing and addressing his reflexive negative responses has been crucial. Nate emphasizes the importance of community and personal reflection in coping with hard times. Both hosts advocate for building emotional intelligence and maintaining strong support networks. They touch on their faith as Christians and how it informs their approach to suffering. The episode concludes with a teaser for the next discussion on the topic of defining what it means to be a Christian.