In Episode 12 of the Ethnically Podcast, host Adarsh Ramchurn sits down with Dr Shabna Begum, the CEO of the Runnymede Trust. Shabna shares her unexpected journey from a 23-year career in teaching to becoming a senior researcher and eventually the CEO at the UK's leading racial justice think tank.   The conversation delves into the impact of race and racism on her life, the challenges she faced during her career transition, and her work focusing on issues like police presence in schools, the cost of living crisis, and women's experiences in the workplace.   Shabna also discusses the importance of confidence, the need for better support systems in schools, and how societal and political narratives shape racial justice. This episode is a candid and powerful exploration of resilience, leadership, and the drive to create a more equitable society.   01:16 Introducing Shabna Begum: CEO of Runnymede Trust 01:54 Shabna's Journey: From Teaching to Runnymede Trust 09:20 Challenges and Triumphs: Women of Colour in the Workplace 15:52 Policing in Schools: A Deep Dive 21:16 Supporting Young People: Policy and Personal Insights 31:08 Addressing Racism: Pressing Challenges and Solidarity 41:52 Final Thoughts and Reflections