We talk to TED Talk presenter and author of 'Sustainable Sustainability', Rajeev Peshawaria, about the concept he's coined called steward leadership. For Rajeev, interdependence, long-term view, ownership mentality and creative resilience are not adequately included in the G of ESG. Are leaders born, or made? Rajeev's response to that is worth listening to the podcast just for his answer alone.