This episode takes a closer look at what’s really behind today’s energy transition. David Blackmon talks with energy analyst Ronald Stein about why oil and refineries still matter so much from powering transportation and hospitals to producing the products we use every day. They discuss how wind and solar create electricity but can’t yet replace the thousands of items built from oil derivatives.They also touch on California’s refinery closures, the shift of energy companies to other states, and what these changes could mean for the economy and national security. With a global perspective on refining and “net zero” goals, the conversation offers a grounded look at the challenges and trade-offs of moving to renewable energy.Highlights of the Podcast00:00 – Introduction & Background01:30 – Energy Literacy & Products from Oil05:40 – Refinery Closures & National Security Concerns08:30 – Newsom Policies & Lack of Backup Plans12:55 – Industry Migration & Economic Impact17:30 – Aging Refineries & Offshoring21:46 – Global Refining & Misunderstood Net Zero Goals27:43 – Closing Thoughts & Call for Conversations