The ecological crisis is foremost a crisis in our ways of thinking. Join digital ecologist Attila Márton in his conversations with thought leaders, as he attempts to learn about how we have to change our philosophies to develop an ecologic style of thinking ready for the 21st century.
The ecological crisis is foremost a crisis in our ways of thinking. Join digital ecologist Attila Márton in his conversations with thought leaders, as he attempts to learn about how we have to change our philosophies to develop an ecologic style of thinking ready for the 21st century.

We often think of ecology as something related to planetary nature. What if it’s about the entire universe?
In this episode, we talk with Thomas Nail, Professor of Philosophy at the University of Denver, who introduces us to the idea of cosmic ecology. At the center is the notion of entropy as the natural tendency of energy to dissipate across the cosmos.
Thomas challenges the common view that entropy is something to fight against. Instead, he suggests that we’re already part of this process and that we forgot how to move with it. This episode opens up a new way of thinking about ecology that connects us not just to the planet, but to the flow of the universe itself.
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Reading recommendation: Nail T. (2021) Theory of the Earth. Stanford University Press.
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recorded 5th December 2023
Editing and Post-Production by Emil Munk
Hosted by Attila Márton
Original Music by Ariel Bialksi
Recording by Jakob Ranum
Produced by Attila Márton and Emil Munk
This episode was financially supported by the Copenhagen Business School