Scott speaks with Billie Jean Winner-Davis, whose daughter Reality spent years in federal prison for revealing Russia’s cyberattack on America’s elections in 2016. Reality’s mom shared some of her frustrations, several of her hopes, shots of her wisdom, and situations she personally experienced through years marked by the most unexpected events, and recently punctuated by her reunion with her daughter. 

Billie’s daughter still remains under carceral control with an ankle bracelet and very active probation even though there’s a zero percent chance she will reoffend after spending one of the longest sentences ever served for leaking a public record.

But she hasn’t given up hope on getting a presidential commutation or pardon of sentence even though the pardon attorney’s office is filled to the brim with other requests. And that’s why Billie Jean Winner-Davis made an impassioned plea to President Biden during our conversation.