The health implications of the pandemic are staggering. Tens of millions of Americans got COVID, as many as 1 million may die from it, and countless others will deal with its lasting effects – maybe forever. Then there are the indirect consequences: 35% of U.S. adults are heavier than they were before the pandemic, drinking and smoking are on the rise, and exercise and healthy eating are on the decline. And don’t forget about the mental health effects, particularly among women and teens.

But a return to health is coming – we just don’t know when. CVS Health Chief Marketing Officer Norman de Greve joins host John Dick to talk about pandemic health trends and which will stick, how businesses need to adapt to them, and a passionate disagreement about eggnog.