This Dr. K show episode features Dr. Michael Karlfeldt interviewing Nina Cheng, founder of the Eastern Philosophy Apothecary, about traditional Chinese medicine and its applications for mental health. Nina shares her personal journey with Chinese medicine, explaining how it was a natural part of her family's healthcare approach and how she turned to Chinese herbal remedies after experiencing ineffective treatments and negative side effects from Western medicine for conditions like chronic sinus congestion and insomnia. Nina discusses the misconceptions surrounding Chinese medicine in the United States, where it's often viewed as mystical or spiritual rather than scientific. She emphasizes that modern Chinese medicine has a strong scientific foundation, with extensive research conducted in China, Taiwan, Korea, and Hong Kong. Unlike Western medicine's focus on single compounds, Chinese herbal formulas work synergistically, with "emperor" herbs leading the formula while other herbs direct or balance its effects. This holistic approach addresses the whole person rather than just managing individual symptoms. The conversation delves into Nina's book "Chinese Medicine for the Mind," which addresses the growing mental health crisis, particularly since the pandemic. She explains how Chinese medicine views conditions like depression as temporary imbalances rather than chronic conditions, using concepts like the five elements and organ systems to understand mental health. For example, depression might be seen as liver stagnation or spleen Qi deficiency, with specific herbal treatments targeting these underlying patterns. The discussion also covers insomnia treatment through the Chinese body clock concept, where each organ system has a two-hour period of peak activity. Nina highlights the practical aspects of Chinese medicine, including dietary considerations like avoiding cold drinks and foods, which are believed to harm digestion and cognition. She mentions that recent Western studies are validating these traditional principles. The episode concludes with discussion of Nina's viral social media content, which has sparked public interest in Chinese medicine remedies, and her emphasis on the accessibility and affordability of these time-tested treatments compared to Western pharmaceuticals. The conversation underscores the empirical evidence supporting Chinese medicine's effectiveness over thousands of years of use. Nina Cheng founded the Eastern Philosophy Apothecary to present traditional Chinese medicine scientifically to Western audiences, countering misconceptions that it's mystical rather than evidence-based. Chinese medicine views mental health conditions like depression as temporary imbalances with specific patterns such as liver stagnation or spleen Qi deficiency, rather than chronic conditions requiring lifelong management. Chinese herbal formulas work synergistically with "emperor" herbs leading the treatment while supporting herbs direct and balance the effects, targeting multiple symptoms within a pattern unlike Western medicine's single-compound approach. The Chinese body clock concept suggests each organ system has a two-hour peak period, and proper sleep timing aligned with natural rhythms is crucial for treating insomnia and maintaining health. Recent Western studies are validating traditional Chinese medicine principles, such as the harmful effects of consuming cold drinks and foods on digestion and cognitive function.