Welcome back to THE DISCOURSE, a podcast about film, entertainment & culture. In this episode, Carl and Tony chat about Kevin Costner's Horizon: Chapter One, his Western saga, quite why it failed at the box office, and whether it represents 'real' cinema. Plus! Emma Roberts is not happy we (well, not just us) are mocking films like Madame Web, claiming internet culture is one big pile on. Does she have a point? Or should we be extracting the Michael out of some films? Finally, after a Sight & Sound piece on 21st century cinema so far, we discuss the list and ponder quite what the prevailing winds of modern cinema are... New episodes of The Discourse drop Mondays and Wednesdays... Host / Editor Carl Sweeney Co-Host Tony Black Follow us on social media: https://linktr.ee/thediscoursepodcast Follow Tony & Carl: Carl: @CKJSweeney on Twitter Tony: https://linktr.ee/ajblackwriter Support the Film Stories podcast network on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/simonbrew Twitter: @filmstories Facebook/Instagram/Threads: Film Stories Website: www.filmstories.co.uk Title music: The Subtle Ones (c) John Ahlin via epidemicsound.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices