On this episode, Dharius sits down with Hillsong NYC pastor Carl Lentz. Their conversation covers breaking bad religion, to having thick skin and a soft heart, to how racism is challenging the humility of Christianity. Plus, don't miss the cast's conversation about the fly that made an appearance at the VP debate and how political leaders need to be knowledgeable about what systemic racism really is. And to finish the episode, Dharius answers your questions about interfaith-relationships and why God chose you.