Neil Erasmus is already well known to you if you work in wood because he has probably taught you or you've read one of his many articles on the craft. Neil is a 3rd generation crafts-person. He grew up in South Africa during the last decades of Apartheid and emigrated to Australia with his wife Pam (also a amazing crafts-person) about 40 years ago. We discuss growing up in South Africa and Neil's feelings about it (compare and contrast with Will Matthysen's episode). Neil has recently "retired" and moved closer to Perth, Australia. We discuss the idea of retirement and what that might entail. Neil is a beautiful human being and it was a pleasure talking with him about his life. Please enjoy this episode.