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The Design Vault is a show where we learn from the past and present as we shape the future of design together, brought to you by hosts Albert Shum and Thamer Abanami.
We’ll discuss iconic products like the Walkman, the 808, and much more, as well as the stories behind them.
Follow us on instagram @thedesignvaultpodcast to join the conversation.
Citroën DS: When France Built a Spaceship Disguised as a Car
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Citroën DS: When France Built a Spaceship Disguised as a Car
Episode Overview
In this episode of The Design Vault, hosts Albert Shum and Thamer Abanami explore the extraordinary story of the Citroën DS, arguably the most audacious automobile ever created. Born from the devastation of post-WWII France, this revolutionary car emerged from an 18-year development odyssey that challenged every automotive convention. With insights from retired Apple and Motorola design leader Tim Parsey, who owned multiple DS models, this episode reveals how a dream team of engineers and designers created a vehicle so advanced it seemed to come from the future. From its magical hydropneumatic suspension to its aerodynamic sculpture-on-wheels aesthetic, the DS completely reimagined what a car could be.
Original Air Date: August 26, 2025
Episode Length: 38:31
Hosts: Albert Shum, Thamer Abanami
Guest: Tim Parsey (Former Apple, Motorola, Mattel Design Leader)
Key Segments & Timestamps
The Context: Post-War France’s Design Challenge (00:20 - 03:58)
Post-WWII devastation creating space for radical innovation
Rough roads, high fuel taxes, and the culture of efficiency
Charles de Gaulle’s “grandeur” vision driving technological ambition
How constraints became catalysts for breakthrough thinking
The Automotive Landscape: A World Ripe for Disruption (03:58 - 06:10)
American excess era: 42-inch tail fins and chrome measured by weight
Germany’s people’s car philosophy with the Beetle
Britain maintaining pre-war conservatism
France’s strategy to leapfrog rather than catch up
Citroën’s Culture of Radical Innovation (06:10 - 08:45)
André Citroën’s front-wheel-drive gamble with the Traction Avant
The critical 1934 bankruptcy and Michelin’s revolutionary takeover
Pierre Boulanger’s radical decision: “Keep engineers, fire accountants”
The 2CV’s parallel development funding DS ambitions
The Dream Team (08:45 - 11:50)
André Lefebvre: Aeronautical engineer with a backlog of innovations
Paul Magès: Self-taught genius behind hydropneumatic suspension
Flaminio Bertoni: Italian sculptor turned automotive stylist
Why letting creative minds loose is “highly risky but necessary”
The 18-Year Development Odyssey (11:50 - 16:21)
Simple question: Why improve roads when you can improve cars?
Secret development during WWII
The hydropneumatic breakthrough: Gas compresses, liquid transmits
Systems integration: One technology powering suspension, brakes, steering
40% of build cost invested in hydraulic complexity
The Theatrical Launch: Paris 1955 (17:16 - 20:03)
Grand Palais transformed into theater
The silk sheet drops, crowds gasp
12,000 pre orders—a record until Tesla Model 3
The strategic 500-customer beta program with dedicated engineers
Living with Revolutionary Complexity (20:03 - 23:05)
The infamous “mushroom brake” and its quirks
Tim’s near-death experience
“Marking territory with hydraulic fluid”
Why the experience had to be driven to be understood
The Meditative Magic: What Made DS Special (23:05 - 27:03)
“Like gliding around… a meditative experience”
Magic carpet ride over speed bumps
Why no other manufacturers copied the formula
Engineering complexity as competitive moat
Evolution and Variants (27:03 - 28:55)
From “frog eyes” to swiveling directional headlights (1967)
Power progression: DS 19, DS 21, DS 23
Safari wagons, Pallas luxury, SM with Maserati power
“Frogs have personality. Fairings don’t.”
Design Philosophy: Engineering as Art (28:55 - 32:39)
Perfect tension between engineering and sculptural beauty
Authentic aerodynamics vs. American “rocket ship” styling
Three-dimensional airflow management with under-car panels
Flush door handles decades before Tesla
Interior as Living Room (32:39 - 35:20)
Four interior lights creating ambient atmosphere
Bench seats and column-mounted gear shifter maximizing space
Single-spoke steering wheel for unobstructed view
Dashboard-mounted mirror at natural eye level
Personal Connection: Tim’s First DS Story (35:20 - 38:27)
£30 for two broken cars to mak
The Design Vault
The Design Vault is a show where we learn from the past and present as we shape the future of design together, brought to you by hosts Albert Shum and Thamer Abanami.
We’ll discuss iconic products like the Walkman, the 808, and much more, as well as the stories behind them.
Follow us on instagram @thedesignvaultpodcast to join the conversation.