Mike Rinder is an Australian-American former senior executive of the Church of Scientology who has recently written about his experiences in the church publishing a memoir A Billion Years: My Escape From a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology.

Mike joins Pat to talk cricket, billion-year contracts, rugby league, Xenu, dogs, South Park and any question Pat has about Scientology which he has been obsessed with for more than a decade.