
In this episode of the Deep Divide with Andy Heintz, I talk with Simon Rodriguez-Porras. Simon is the author of "Why Did Chavismo Fail". He also is an editor at Venezuelan voices.org and a writer for the New Arab. In the episode Rodriguez discusses what the Left and Right get wrong when analyzing the overlapping economic, political, and human rights crises that have befallen Venezuela and caused about 8 million people to flee the country over the past decade. Rodriguez offers harsh criticism of the economic and political policies of Nicolas Maduro and his predecessor the late Hugo Chavez while also criticizing American foreign policy in Venezuela. My interview with Chavez was conducted on June 6, 2024, but I thought it was important to include after Maduro was fraudulently re-elected president on July 28, 2024. The government-controlled National Electoral Council declared Maduro the winner without publishing a detailed account of the results, which has been standard practice since the establishment of an electronic voting system in the country in 2004. Meanwhile, volunteers for the opposition candidate Edmundo Gonzalez Urrutia collected over 80 percent of the ballots whose results were printed and published online. The tallies showed Gonzalez receiving about 7 million votes to Maduro's 3 million. Venezuelans contested the results by taking to the streets and engaging in large, spontaneous protests including in areas that used to be strongly supportive of Hugo Chavez. Maduro's government responded with harsh repression with more than 2,000 arrested-including more than a 100 children-and 25 people killed. Rodriguez penned an excellent article about the fraudulent elections in the New Arab. In this episode, he challenges the view that Maduro and Chavez were democratic socialists while also explaining why Venezuelan economy's unhealthy dependence on oil exports didn't start with Chavez and why no government has been able to steer the country away from its oil dependency since the resource was first discovered in the country.