Philip welcomes Prof. Susan Sturm, author of What Might Be: Confronting Racism to Transform Institutions. In our conversation, we discuss how important it is to honestly confront racism and how movements can grow in times of rising authoritarianism.

The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.

Philip’s Drop:
Malcolm- Jamal Warner

Susan’s Drop:
Blue

Special Guest: Susan Sturm.