Philip welcomes Claudia Rowe, author of Wards of the State: The Long Shadow of American Foster Care. In their conversation, they explore the deep crisis within the foster care system and how it adversely effects the children it is attempting to serve.

The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.

Philip’s Drop:
Secrets We Keep (Netflix)

Claudia’s Drop:
Sinners (HBO Max)
Adolescence (Netflix)